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Scabal: Why make your own swatch books?

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Scabal bunches brussels

 

Scabal bunches brussels  
Last week I was in Brussels visiting the headquarters of cloth merchant Scabal. They moved buildings two years ago and now have an attractive, open-plan space on top of their warehouse.

That warehouse stores a lot of cloth. Most of the people are responsible for cutting it up and sending it to bespoke and MTM clients around the world.

But there is also a large group dedicated to making swatch books (or bunches) – the samples of cloth that customers can pick from.  

Scabal cloth bunches

Scabal factory warehouse

  
It’s quite a labour-intensive process. Cloth must be cut up into little rectangles on a press. Thick glue is used to bind these swatches to a piece of wood.

And one person puts a little sticker on each one, to identify it. She does them all one at a time – with a pair of tweezers.

“Why do we make our cloth books here?” Scabal executive chairman Gregor Thissen asks rhetorically, just as the same question occurs to me. “Why don’t we just outsource it and make them overseas?”

The answer is control, and to an extent service. Although swatch books might seem an odd thing to employ people to make in the middle of Brussels, it allows Scabal to do small runs, to personalise bunches, and to apply more levels of quality control. 
  

Scabal pieces cloth

  
This has parallels with the theme that runs through most of my visit: the role of the cloth merchant. 

As a consumer, it is easy to identify with a mill. It weaves raw material; it has a long history; it is the place where the cloth comes from. (Not always, given the farmers/spinners/finishers also usually involved, but you see why it’s a nice story.)

The role of a merchant, like Scabal, is a harder one to empathise with. Don’t they just store the cloth and send it out to clients? Isn’t it just logistics and customer service? 
  

Scabal cloth checking

  
Part of it is about service. The fact Scabal re-checks every piece that comes in (even from its own mill, Bower Roebuck), for example, or the fact that it invests a lot in stock, so that it can guarantee a piece will never run out. 

But there’s also design. Scabal designs 600-700 new cloths every season, across the various weights and categories, with a total book of 5000.

Walk into Scabal on Savile Row – or in Brussels or Paris – and you can find anything from the super-number worsteds it is known for to heavy Irish linens, all designed by the same team under Michael Day, and all of which the salesman should be able to pick from and recommend alongside each other. 

If that’s your aim, it’s easier to see why you make your own swatch books. Plus Scabal invented them, back in 1938, which is a nice reason to carry on doing it.

(Back then their pioneering line was called ‘Superlana’. The company wouldn’t be known as Société Commerciale Anglo Belgo Allemande Luxembourgeoise – or Scabal for short – for another eight years. Oh, and in 1971 they commissioned Salvador Dali to design what men would be wearing in the 21st century. He predicted we’d all be dressing like peasants; he wasn’t far wrong.)


The Holland & Sherry cloths I have known

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Holland & Sherry 892020 Harris Tweed

At the Young Tailors Symposium in a couple of weeks, we will have one floor of the Stefano Bemer atelier dedicated to my favourite Holland & Sherry cloths. 

Holland & Sherry have generously supported the event, and I thought the best way to return the favour was to show off 10 lengths of cloth that I have had made into suits or jackets recently.

That way, readers can see and feel the cloth first hand - not just on screen, and not just in a swatch book, but at a scale where you can appreciate the colour and texture, and even drape it about yourself to see if it would suit you too. 

The 10 cloths we will be showing are (Click on the thumbnails to enlarge):

Holland & Sherry 332037 Crispaire1. Brown high-twist suiting
Crispaire, 332037 

Used for my suit from Sartoria Dalcuore, which was featured as a fitting earlier in the year, and I'm just putting the final post together on now. I'm increasingly using Crispaire instead of Fresco or any similar fabrics, because it has the breathability and ability to maintain its shape (in fact, is probably better at that) and is not scratchy. 

Holland & Sherry 662036 Cape Horn 11oz2. Grey pick-and-pick worsted
Cape Horn 11oz, 662036 

This was the suiting I made my Camps de Luca suit out of, a two-piece, two-button versatile business suit. Pick and pick is a nice weave as it gives a little more surface interest that a plain weave or twill - but less than a bird's eye, for instance.

Holland & Sherry 753402 Flannel3. Green flannel
Flannels, 753402

I had a pair of trousers made up in this green flannel by Elia Caliendo over the winter, and they featured in this post about my oatmeal jacket from him. Green is not an easy colour to get right in flannel, but this is greyed and muted - not too strong and at first glance no difference to darkish grey.

Holland & Sherry 983009 Pardesus4. Super-heavy cream trousers
Pardessus, 983009

This was the other pair of trousers Elia made me over the winter - in Holland & Sherry's Pardessus bunch. It is super-heavy and usually used for overcoats (even for curtains) but I love it. It has a beautiful handle and I love the cream and olive colours. The trousers were featured in the piece on my Escorial jacket

Holland & Sherry 232061 Cape Horn High Twist5. High-twist summer suiting
Cape Horn High Twist, 232061 

The cloth I used for my recent suit with Manning & Manning. Lighter than Crispaire and with a particular resistance to creasing - though once it does crease you do have to press it out again. This shade is not quite colonial tan, but has a touch of olive to it, which is a bit more urban and modern.

Holland & Sherry 892020 Harris Tweed6. Beautifully deep tweed
Harris Tweed, 892020

The more I have things made, the more I like subtle pattern and texture, rather than big checks or stripes. And so the more I like Harris tweed. Such fantastic colours. This is an update on the tweed I had made into a jacket a few years ago - and was much appreciated when photographed in Scotland. So useful. 

Holland & Sherry 953806 Dakota7. Grey trousering
Dakota, 953806 

I liked the Dalcuore brown Crispaire so much that I'm having the grey version made into trousers by Solito. Very versatile in the summer. This is also carried in the Dakota bunch.

 

Holland & Sherry 654060 Classic Worsteds8. Solid navy worsted
Classic Worsteds, 654060 

This was the navy worsted used in my Classic Bespoke suit from Whitcomb & Shaftesbury, and is a great starting point for a first suit. Eleven ounces, nice twill and great body. 

 

Holland & Sherry 953406 Dakota9. Versatile cavalry twill
Dakota, 953406 

I'm having this made up into trousers at the moment. Cavalry twill is a great option for odd trousers - nice texture in the twill and without the sheen of the wool gabardine normally recommended. This is a pale beige colour that should be very versatile.

Holland & Sherry 922510 Serendipity10. Cashmere donegal jacketing
Serendipity, 922510 

Last but not least, a lovely donegal in 100% cashmere, which I have earmarked but am yet to use. I've always liked donegal, for its haphazard texture, and in grey it makes a nice bridge between formal and casual jackets. 

Dugdale Towers

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The Dugdale Brothers building in the centre of Huddersfield (scale model, above) is exactly what you’d hope the headquarters of an old cloth merchant would be like. Four and a half floors of old furniture, worn wooden floorboards and the occasional touch of old branding – such as the White Rose, symbol of Yorkshire and name of Dugdale’s first bunches in 1902.


Despite its many floors – including a cold basement, perfect for settling or ‘shrinking’ cloth – the modern company has almost outgrown Dugdale Towers. It holds a larger number of pieces for each swatch of cloth than most other merchants, and has a reputation on Savile Row for never being out of stock as a result. But that requires a lot of space, and they already have an overspill facility up the road.

Here are a few of the highlights.

 Old cloth stamps

Trimmings

First floor storage

1939 White Rose catalogue

And cloth

The filing system

Basement storage

Outdoor signage

Geoff Wheeler, Dugdale’s (former Lesser’s) agent and Savile Row mainstay

Other pieces in this series on Huddersfield:
Huddersfield’s mills and merchants explained
WT Johnson’s – finishers 

Pictures: Luke Carby

Vitale Barberis Canonico

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This past week I’ve been in Biella, visiting the lovely people at Vitale Barberis Canonico and researching a piece on Italian mills and bunches – a follow-up to the popular post on English mills.

Barberis is going through something of a transition at the moment, with Fracesco Vitale Barberis recently taking over from his father Luciano as creative director. (Below, Francesco on the left, Luciano in the middle and head of communications Simone Ubertino Rosso on the right).


Barberis is in a good position, being the only big mill left that doesn’t also have a clothing line (Zegna, Loro Piana and Cerruti are the others) and its independence will only be more of a bonus given the recent takeover of Loro Piana by the LVMH group. Zegna is already VBC’s biggest customer.

Francesco is a true anglophile, and the only Italian I know whose favourite game is Mornington Crescent (always a sign that someone really understands the English). Simone is a sharp young guy who, usefully, speaks fluent Mandarin. And the rest of the team are extremely switched on, gearing up for trying to increase awareness about Vitale Barberis Canonico. There is to be an archive room – they are the oldest recorded mill still working in the world, after all – and a celebration later in the year of the 350-year anniversary.

As I have said before, there is little difference between mills and less between cloth merchants. Your choice of cloth shouldn’t be based on the brand on the front. Barberis is often seen as lower in quality than Zegna, Dormeuil or others, but it’s only because they produce a wider range, from the cheap to the luxurious.

What difference there is between all these mills/merchants is down to quality control and some finishing (what Lesser’s reputation was always based on). Your decision between bunches should be based on the objective facts: the raw materials, the weave, the design. And what your tailor likes working with.   

The biggest difference between English and Italian mills is that the latter are vertically integrated. Where Pennine weaves, Johnson’s finishes and Dugdale’s sells in the UK, Barberis actually owns some sheep in Australia (only a few, mind) and then combs, dyes, spins, weaves and finishes itself.

It’s hard to think of another industry with such a contrast in integration – yet there is little difference in the final product. There goes the argument always trotted out in luxury magazines about how great it is to own every part of the production.

Over the next few weeks: the dyeing process, the Barberis tailor, Italians mills and merchants explained, and the great VBC cycling team. 


Summer cloths from 1931. Crikey. 


I love old cloth books. Such beautiful objects. Notebook used to show scale

Italy’s mills and merchants explained

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This is a follow-up to my popular post on English mills and cloth merchants: how to tell them apart, how they are related and how to select between them (basically, don’t; there is little difference).
 
Italian mills are a lot simpler, as there is less overlap and fewer brands. But they are also different in some substantial ways to English mills. The major differences are:

– A lot of Italian mills make ‘Italian-style’ ranges for English merchants and non-English merchants such as Scabal and Dormeuil. These are not always labelled as such in the cloth books. Far fewer English mills supply cloth to the Italian mills, though there are some in Ariston and Caccioppoli bunches.

– More Italians mills are vertically integrated, doing their own finishing for example. And the big mills such as Zegna do everything from owning sheep to dying, spinning, weaving and finishing. English mills usually just weave. 

– Italian mills rarely use lots of different brands and old names, unlike England where mills have merged over the years, leading to a lot of historic names.

The following is a list of the Italian mills, merchants and mill-merchants that supply cloth to bespoke tailors. Putting it together has involved input from four different Italian mills, though it is likely still not comprehensive. If anyone knows any I have missed, let me know and I will include it once verified.

 
 
Mill and merchant:

Ermenegildo Zegna: Vertically integrated, from sheep to suit. One of the biggest producers and sellers of cloth to tailors. Buys cloth from other mills for its branded tailoring, but otherwise only sells its own cloth (other than cottons).  

Loro Piana: Vertically integrated, from sheep to suit. Again one of the biggest producers; only sells its own cloth. Particularly specialises in raw materials.
 
Vitale Barberis Canonico: Vertically integrated, from sheep to bunch. Sells around 50% under its own name and 50% under others’, including many English and Italian merchants.
 
Cerruti: Mill, with a separate fashion line. Weaves for many merchants, but also sells small some under its own name, such as co-branded bunches with Dugdale’s.
 
Drago: Mill, selling a little under its own name but mostly under others’.

Carlo Barbera: Mill owned by Kiton, selling small volume to tailors

 
 
Mills:
 
Ormezzano: Mill, only sells under its own name to ready-to-wear. Unlike most Italian mills, doesn’t do its own finishing.
 
Colombo, which also has its own clothing line

E.Thomas

Zignone

Botto Fila

Piacenza 1773

Reda

 
 
Merchants:
 
Caccioppoli: Neapolitan. Collects together ranges from lots of mills and sells a more southern-Italian look. Most Italian mills offer the more sober end of their range in England, which is what sets Caccioppoli apart.
 
Drapers: Partially owned by Barberis. Sells around 50% Barberis cloth and 50% from others.
 
Ariston: Owned by Imparato, near Naples. Sells largely exclusive cloth, sourced only in Italy (except Irish linen). Changes entire collection (around 550 shades) every season. 

Eurotex

Carnet

Bonino Angelo Tessuti

W Bill and Smith’s sold: Mark Dunsford interview

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Last week the sale was finalised of the W Bill and Smith’s cloth brands to LBD Harrison‘s. The company, run by Mark Dunsford, has been built on acquisitions, starting with Pedersen & Becker over 20 years ago and more recently Porter & Harding, Harrison’s of Edinburgh and in 2010, H Lesser. So what does this increasing concentration of the industry mean for bespoke customers? 

Permanent Style: How long has this sale been in the works?

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Mark Dunsford: Well given our acquisitions over the past few years, I think everyone knew we would be interested if another merchant was on the table. We all know each other and get along very well. So when David Graham, the owner, decided to retire he asked us if we wanted to talk about it. That was around 18 months ago.

Why did he want to sell? 

The company had been in the family for a while, but he’s 67 now and had enough of travelling around Europe I think. He also knew we had a fairly good track record with looking after these small British brands, so he would rather sell to us than to a larger company. He had bought W Bill himself in around 1990, ahead of us. 

What’s the state of the business?

It’s in decent shape, it makes money. That’s very different to the brands we bought previously, which were in pretty poor shape for various reasons.  

What exactly are you buying?

The brand and the stock, essentially. There is no manufacturing, unlike Italian mills, so it’s just the value inherent in the designs and the bunches, and their popularity with various tailors. We are unlikely to take on any extra staff either. In this market, it’s always been very hard to increase market share with more or better bunches. Everyone has their bunches in the tailors, and everyone’s share of the pie is pretty consistent. Acquisition is the only way to grow. 

Will this mean less choice for bespoke customers?

Well a lot of the British merchants share manufacturing, so the designs are often very similar. If you look at the basic Lesser and Smith’s bunches, they are almost the same. It’s not a like Dormeuil or a Scabal, where they are designing primarily for RTW garments to be made in the Far East. There is much less original design work in the cloths produced for bespoke tailors, particularly in the UK. We stick to what we’re good at. 

But there are still bunches and cloths that would be missed. I’ve always been a fan of Moonbeam, for example, and I noticed recently that Harrison’s and Loro Piana are the only two to offer a cashmere overcoating over 20oz. 

Absolutely, and we plan to retain all those existing bunches. 

Is there a risk that the choice overall will decrease, however, with just one design team putting together the bunches for all these brands?

FT feature 008 (3)Possibly. The key is maintaining the navy and grey worsteds that are the bedrock of the business, though. That’s what keeps the industry alive. When you look at the Lesser bunches before it was sold, even the basic bunches were pretty depleted. We need to make sure that the popular cloths are consistently available, in the same quality and all still made in UK. 

Do you have any plans to create new designs for the brands you have acquired?

W Bill will be a big focus over the next 18 months. There is a lot there that needs improving and modernising. A lot of the patterns are repeated; a lot are too heavy for a contemporary audience. We don’t want to lose that, but we want to mix it up with some things that are a lot more lightweight – softer jacketings that are so popular today, competing with the likes of Caccioppoli. 

There will always be a customer that wants heavier or old-style cloths, though, as shown by the popularity of online cloth clubs. Do you plan to cater to them?

That’s something we want to retain with the Porter & Harding brand. That heavy, Scottish tweed will remain in those bunches, while we do more original, funky stuff elsewhere. It’s early days yet – we don’t have a firm plan. But that’s the direction we want to go in. 

Do you have any plans to do more direct sales of cloth to bespoke customers?

I’m not against it – we do a little bit with customers that are off the beaten track, in Hong Kong for example. They phone up with the specific cloth number and we can ship it out. But it’s a bit messy and inefficient. It takes a lot of time.

Could you sell more online?

Possibly, but it’s very expensive to set up and hard to reproduce the exact colour or texture of the cloth. The feel of the fabric is so important that it would kill me a little bit to do it. I know John Foster’s and Hunt & Winterbotham sell online, but actually we just employed the guy at Hunt & Winterbotham who set it up and they made very few sales.

There’s a risk you lose your focus as well, I think. Stick to developing great bunches and being a good merchant – that’s what we do well. I suppose I’m a little old-fashioned like that, but there we are.

Who do you see as your main competition now?

DSCN2189Holland & Sherry I suppose – I haven’t had a call from them yet about the sale but I’m sure I will – and Dormeuil, Scabal. But the thing with those big companies is they make most of their money selling to the garment industry. The UK is not a big market for them. Holland & Sherry concentrates on America, Dormeuil in the Far East, Scabal in South America and other places.

I’m sure they see the UK as important (probably Holland & Sherry more than the others), but they’re not real competition for us with the West End and City boys. The offering is also different, along with the price. They tend to be more expensive and much lighter in weight. 

Have you seen any fallout from the Loro Piana sale yet?

No, I think that will largely affect the Italian market rather than the UK. Cashmere sales in Italy is probably the only area we would cross over.

Do you think you have preserved the future of these British brands with the buyout?

Possibly, yes. The thing about being a cloth merchant is it’s a long game. Once you have bunches out there, you need to repeat them and keep them supported. The moment you want to try and get out, you have a dilemma. If you start chopping up the bunches and not supporting some of the cloths, the tailors stop using them and you end up with a load of stock you can’t sell.

David was patching up the W Bill and Smith’s bunches a little to keep them going, but he sold at the right time. If he had waited, he might have ended up with a situation like Lesser’s – they couldn’t sell cloth, so didn’t have any money to buy new stock, and it all circled downwards in a vicious circle.  It’s good to have bought the company from David while it was still making money.     

The Button Queen

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The Button Queen2

The Button Queen2
 
Last week I discovered The Button Queen, on Marylebone Lane in London. It’s hard to believe I’ve never been in before; I don’t think I will ever select buttons for tailoring from anywhere else.

The Button Queen has been around since the 1950s. It used to be on Carnaby Street until the 60s, when the swingers pushed them out. They have been on the current premises since 1987 – and before that on the other side of the road. The shop’s life has been a peripatetic one, constantly being moved on by new trends or developments. Then again, it feels surprising today that any shop in cental London can turn a profit selling buttons.
 

The Button Queen 

There are precious and rare buttons for collectors. Most of the trade is dress makers and designers, looking for original patterns and materials. But in the middle there is a rich collection of buttons suitable for tailoring.

The problem with most button retailers is that they don’t have the sizes required for a jacket’s front and cuffs, let alone blazer buttons, overcoat buttons and so on. Much as I love Duttons for Buttons in York, there were only ever a handful of ranges that had the appropriate sizes.

  
nepalese horn The Button Queenhorn The Button Queen domed horn buttons The Button Queen horn buttons The Button Queen

The Button Queen folders that will be of most interest to readers are labelled ‘horn buttons’, ‘shell buttons’ and ‘blazer buttons’. Possibly ‘wooden buttons’ as well. Horn has all the colours we expect from tailors, a few extra shades, and some beautiful carved and domed models. These are largely hand-cut Nepalese horn, which ranges from the very rustic (tweed jacket, perhaps) to the beautifully fine and intricate.

The shell folder has the mother-of-pearl you’d expect (again, with a few extra shades) plus my favourites: mussel shell. The blazer-button folder, although contaning a broad range of coats of arms, otherwise aren’t that interesting.
  

blazer buttons The Button Queen lion's head buttons The Button Queen 

Far more noteworthy are the vintage and rare metallic buttons. For I had come into The Button Queen seeking something antique for my Gieves & Hawkes bespoke pea coat. Martin, the manager, was initially sceptical. Pea coat buttons are pretty large and normally pretty dull. But when I explained that there was a lot of flexibility about the size, he dug out a few old boxes.

I recommend looking at the livery buttons. These were usually worn in two curving lines down the front edges of household staff uniforms, and not designed to do up. They feature the family’s coat of arms or crest, and are slightly bigger than jacket buttons, slightly smaller an overcoat’s. Nice for a blazer, perhaps.

For the pea coat we found some slightly larger, domed versions. Made from brass, they are nicely tarnished and (according the backs) made in Birmingham in 1927.

I’ll include some photos of those in the final pea-coat post. In the meantime, have a look at the models here, and get down to see Martin next time you have a piece of tailoring in need of some personalisation.
 
 
The Button Queen London

A green cotton suit?

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Reillo cotton bespoke suit green

Reillo cotton bespoke suit green

 
In my review of Spanish tailor Reillo’s cotton suit last week, there proved to be only room to analyse the fit and make.

Yet a reader rightly pointed out that green cotton-gabardine is hardly an everyday cloth option. I’ll explain the style aspects of the outfit now – but essentially, it was chosen for the versatility of green and casual nature of cotton.

Regular readers will be familiar with my views on green. After the menswear foundations of navy and grey, it is the most useful colour for everything from ties to knitwear.

Cream is barely a colour; brown can suffer from similarity to other, leather elements in the ensemble. Green, in all its tones, should be a man’s third choice – yet it rarely is.
 

Green suit close-up

 
A green suit goes wonderfully with different shades of brown shoe or belt; it works with both blue and white shirts; and the harmonious colours for silk accessories are manifold – pale blue, burnt orange, navy, yellow, even purple in some cases.

In the outfit shown here, the grey wool tie is pretty conservative, but the deep orange of the handkerchief is a real pleasure. The colours are largely spring and autumn ones – indeed, we chose this background for the photo to demonstrate that harmony, with fallen leaves and bright blue skies.

Of course, not all greens are the same. It’s hard to go wrong with navy or grey, but certain greens are far too strong and saturated to work sartorially.

I’d generally recommend going for a dark green, which means strength of colour is less of a problem, and the suit overall will be more wearable. I have one other green suit – a deep, dark flannel, made by Brian Smith at the Fox Brothers mill.

But if you go for a lighter colour like mine (Caccioppoli 340307), make sure it’s not too strong in tone – a little faded, a little greyed. Cotton (gabardine) is a help here too, because it will fade quicker than any other material, particularly around wear points like the front edge and cuffs.

Elsewhere: brown, hatched grain slip-ons from Gaziano & Girling; white spread-collar shirt from Luca Avitabile; and reversible knitted-wool tie from Hermes.

The latter is a recent acquisition and fantastically useful, with a slightly different shade of grey on each side. I confess I like the fact that the knit is different to 99% of patterns out there as well. (Though avoid the silk ‘4 temps’ line – the colour contrast is too great.)

Photography: Jack Lawson


Scabal: Why make your own swatch books?

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Scabal bunches brussels

 

Scabal bunches brussels  
Last week I was in Brussels visiting the headquarters of cloth merchant Scabal. They moved buildings two years ago and now have an attractive, open-plan space on top of their warehouse.

That warehouse stores a lot of cloth. Most of the people are responsible for cutting it up and sending it to bespoke and MTM clients around the world.

But there is also a large group dedicated to making swatch books (or bunches) – the samples of cloth that customers can pick from.  

Scabal cloth bunches

Scabal factory warehouse

  
It’s quite a labour-intensive process. Cloth must be cut up into little rectangles on a press. Thick glue is used to bind these swatches to a piece of wood.

And one person puts a little sticker on each one, to identify it. She does them all one at a time – with a pair of tweezers.

“Why do we make our cloth books here?” Scabal executive chairman Gregor Thissen asks rhetorically, just as the same question occurs to me. “Why don’t we just outsource it and make them overseas?”

The answer is control, and to an extent service. Although swatch books might seem an odd thing to employ people to make in the middle of Brussels, it allows Scabal to do small runs, to personalise bunches, and to apply more levels of quality control. 
  

Scabal pieces cloth

  
This has parallels with the theme that runs through most of my visit: the role of the cloth merchant. 

As a consumer, it is easy to identify with a mill. It weaves raw material; it has a long history; it is the place where the cloth comes from. (Not always, given the farmers/spinners/finishers also usually involved, but you see why it’s a nice story.)

The role of a merchant, like Scabal, is a harder one to empathise with. Don’t they just store the cloth and send it out to clients? Isn’t it just logistics and customer service? 
  

Scabal cloth checking

  
Part of it is about service. The fact Scabal re-checks every piece that comes in (even from its own mill, Bower Roebuck), for example, or the fact that it invests a lot in stock, so that it can guarantee a piece will never run out. 

But there’s also design. Scabal designs 600-700 new cloths every season, across the various weights and categories, with a total book of 5000.

Walk into Scabal on Savile Row – or in Brussels or Paris – and you can find anything from the super-number worsteds it is known for to heavy Irish linens, all designed by the same team under Michael Day, and all of which the salesman should be able to pick from and recommend alongside each other. 

If that’s your aim, it’s easier to see why you make your own swatch books. Plus Scabal invented them, back in 1938, which is a nice reason to carry on doing it.

(Back then their pioneering line was called ‘Superlana’. The company wouldn’t be known as Société Commerciale Anglo Belgo Allemande Luxembourgeoise – or Scabal for short – for another eight years. Oh, and in 1971 they commissioned Salvador Dali to design what men would be wearing in the 21st century. He predicted we’d all be dressing like peasants; he wasn’t far wrong.)

The Holland & Sherry cloths I have known

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Holland & Sherry 892020 Harris Tweed

At the Young Tailors Symposium in a couple of weeks, we will have one floor of the Stefano Bemer atelier dedicated to my favourite Holland & Sherry cloths. 

Holland & Sherry have generously supported the event, and I thought the best way to return the favour was to show off 10 lengths of cloth that I have had made into suits or jackets recently.

That way, readers can see and feel the cloth first hand - not just on screen, and not just in a swatch book, but at a scale where you can appreciate the colour and texture, and even drape it about yourself to see if it would suit you too. 

The 10 cloths we will be showing are (Click on the thumbnails to enlarge):

Holland & Sherry 332037 Crispaire1. Brown high-twist suiting
Crispaire, 332037 

Used for my suit from Sartoria Dalcuore, which was featured as a fitting earlier in the year, and I'm just putting the final post together on now. I'm increasingly using Crispaire instead of Fresco or any similar fabrics, because it has the breathability and ability to maintain its shape (in fact, is probably better at that) and is not scratchy. 

Holland & Sherry 662036 Cape Horn 11oz2. Grey pick-and-pick worsted
Cape Horn 11oz, 662036 

This was the suiting I made my Camps de Luca suit out of, a two-piece, two-button versatile business suit. Pick and pick is a nice weave as it gives a little more surface interest that a plain weave or twill - but less than a bird's eye, for instance.

Holland & Sherry 753402 Flannel3. Green flannel
Flannels, 753402

I had a pair of trousers made up in this green flannel by Elia Caliendo over the winter, and they featured in this post about my oatmeal jacket from him. Green is not an easy colour to get right in flannel, but this is greyed and muted - not too strong and at first glance no difference to darkish grey.

Holland & Sherry 983009 Pardesus4. Super-heavy cream trousers
Pardessus, 983009

This was the other pair of trousers Elia made me over the winter - in Holland & Sherry's Pardessus bunch. It is super-heavy and usually used for overcoats (even for curtains) but I love it. It has a beautiful handle and I love the cream and olive colours. The trousers were featured in the piece on my Escorial jacket

Holland & Sherry 232061 Cape Horn High Twist5. High-twist summer suiting
Cape Horn High Twist, 232061 

The cloth I used for my recent suit with Manning & Manning. Lighter than Crispaire and with a particular resistance to creasing - though once it does crease you do have to press it out again. This shade is not quite colonial tan, but has a touch of olive to it, which is a bit more urban and modern.

Holland & Sherry 892020 Harris Tweed6. Beautifully deep tweed
Harris Tweed, 892020

The more I have things made, the more I like subtle pattern and texture, rather than big checks or stripes. And so the more I like Harris tweed. Such fantastic colours. This is an update on the tweed I had made into a jacket a few years ago - and was much appreciated when photographed in Scotland. So useful. 

Holland & Sherry 953806 Dakota7. Grey trousering
Dakota, 953806 

I liked the Dalcuore brown Crispaire so much that I'm having the grey version made into trousers by Solito. Very versatile in the summer. This is also carried in the Dakota bunch.

 

Holland & Sherry 654060 Classic Worsteds8. Solid navy worsted
Classic Worsteds, 654060 

This was the navy worsted used in my Classic Bespoke suit from Whitcomb & Shaftesbury, and is a great starting point for a first suit. Eleven ounces, nice twill and great body. 

 

Holland & Sherry 953406 Dakota9. Versatile cavalry twill
Dakota, 953406 

I'm having this made up into trousers at the moment. Cavalry twill is a great option for odd trousers - nice texture in the twill and without the sheen of the wool gabardine normally recommended. This is a pale beige colour that should be very versatile.

Holland & Sherry 922510 Serendipity10. Cashmere donegal jacketing
Serendipity, 922510 

Last but not least, a lovely donegal in 100% cashmere, which I have earmarked but am yet to use. I've always liked donegal, for its haphazard texture, and in grey it makes a nice bridge between formal and casual jackets. 

Interview: Gregor Thissen, Scabal

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A couple of months ago I sat down with Gregor Thissen, Executive Chairman of cloth merchant Scabal, in Brussels after a tour of the factory. You can read more about Scabal and that factory on my first post here.

 

Permanent Style: I’ve always found there’s quite a lot of ignorance of the role of cloth merchants like Scabal, and a conflation with actual mills. How would you describe the role of the cloth merchant today, and its benefits for the consumer?

Gregor Thissen: Service is the main thing. A tailor will get some kind of service if he orders cloth directly from a mill, but a cloth merchant is set up specifically to provide a high level of service. There is greater availability, and greater personalisation. We know all the tailors personally, and can provide any length of cloth up from a single metre.

We can also quickly provide small samples, and we provide a level of quality control, checking consistency of colour, of handle, on top of what the mill already does.

And how does the end consumer see that?

Well, there’s less chance that things they order won’t be available, and that two suits from the same cloth will be different shades. The service he gets from his tailor is very dependent on the service the tailor gets from the merchant.

I would also argue that we provide a form of education to tailors, making them aware of how certain cloths perform and make up, if they haven’t used them before. We have the time to do that, as we have a bigger service department and as a result are closer to the tailors.

How important is the design input from a merchant?

It’s crucial. A mill might stick with the same classic patterns and colours year after year, while a merchant has a full design team looking to capitalise on trends and innovate constantly. We carry 5,000 designs at any one time, and rotate a proportion of them every season.

There will also be a certain ‘handwriting’ or style to the collections from a single merchant - as one designer (Michael Day in our case) is overseeing all of it.

Is that not hard to do across the full range of materials and weights - from a heavy tweed to a summer cotton? Is it not easier for the mills to be consistent in that regard?

It’s certainly easier for them to keep consistency, yes, as they have a narrower range and often change less. But I’d argue we have a consistent style across the full range of cloths, no matter what it is.

For tailors, I think the benefit is then that they can carry the full Scabal range and know what style they’re getting from all of it. Certain things might go together better, like a jacket and trousers - or if they’ve sold one summer jacket to customer, they know there are lots of other similar options they can offer next time.

And the size of our range means that the customer can get literally anything he wants, from vicuna to cashmere to tweed.

But the end consumer is likely to feel they can already get that full range of cloths, just from a range of different mills or smaller merchants.

Perhaps, but that’s where the range combines with the other benefits of design and service. You won’t get that consistent handwriting across different mills, and a tailor won’t be able to order all of those things as quickly and easily, or in such small volumes, from everybody.

How important is size and capital to that offering?

It makes a big difference. To offer a range as broad, deep and luxurious as ours requires quite a lot of financing, and that’s something a smaller mill or merchant often can’t do. It’s often the main reason their offerings are that much narrower.

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How much does your business vary around the world?

It varies a lot, and that’s not easy to keep on top of. We were talking earlier, for instance, of a certain strong shade of blue that seems to be everywhere at the moment - popular for weddings but also just for day-to-day business.

That’s a global trend, but there are very few of those. Most trends are very local and specific to the culture.

Another thing we were talking about earlier was how dependent this business is on numbers, charts and forecasting. Given the number of orders going out every day, there must be an awful lot of data to keep on top of.

There is - we’ve been tracking that strong blue for years now, and expected it to die off this year, but it’s still going strong.

The data also gives us a very precise idea of the costs of different parts of the business. I know exactly how much all those thousands of pieces of cloth downstairs cost us every day, for example.

But inventory is not something we’ve shied away from. It’s a core offering of a cloth merchant, as we just discussed, and it’s actually something we’ve invested more in in recent years. Personally, I think this is one reason we’ve been successful recently, in that we’re increasing inventory when others are trying to reduce it - particularly mills and tailors.

If we just had one of these things - design, service, inventory, brand - we probably couldn’t justify being here. Particularly in this age of digital communication, and the speed of international transport. You could be forgiven for thinking a cloth merchant is anachronistic. But with all those elements together, it works.

What is the split of the Scabal business?

The vast majority is supplying cut lengths - to bespoke tailors and made-to-measure companies. A small proportion is used in ready to wear. Of the cut-length business, perhaps 20% is tailors, as the volumes are so much smaller.

And do you keep the business of the mill [Bower Roebuck, in Huddersfield] separate from the merchant side?

Yes. Not everyone does that, but we like to keep the two very separate. So the mill can sell in their own right to designers, to brands etc. And we focus just on the merchant side, of which the vast majority is cut lengths.

I think it’s fair to say Scabal’s reputation is for particularly fine worsteds, for high Super numbers in both jacketings and suitings. Is that something that concerns you?

Well, we’re aware of that reputation, and it’s something we talk about a lot. Although as we’ve discussed it’s rather a misrepresentation given the breadth of what we have on offer - from very rustic, naturally finished cloth to those superfines.

Talking about superfines though, it’s worth noting that the superior quality of the raw material is not just the microns, which often get the most attention. It’s also about the crimp of the fibre, the pureness, the tensile strength. Then the final cloth is affected by the setting, finishing etc.

But that’s all about marketing, surely? People focus on the micronage because that’s what all the cloth merchants have been talking about for years. And there’s now more competition in that area, so the focus is being shifted to other factors.

Yes, absolutely. I think it’s also getting easier to get a more complicated message across, though, as men are taking a deeper interesting in their clothes and the cloths that make them up.

They want to know what’s under the hood, how the brakes work. They want to know what makes up quality - as you’ve seen in the reaction to the knowledge communicated through Permanent Style, for example.

Gregor Thissen, Scabal copy 2

How have you found interaction with your business changing with the growth of social media? For example, I know my readers now often order cloth based on seeing it made up on their friends or people they follow. But if a cloth is only around for a season, and it takes a season to make up the suit, that precise cloth is never available.

We’re aware of this issue, and do keep cloths around for a good deal longer than a season. Normally they’d rotate every two years at the earliest.

And we’re doing more on social media as we feel it’s a good platform to communicate these more complicated stories we want to tell. It gives consumers an opportunity to react and ask questions, unlike a simple print ad.

Do you plan to sell cloth more to end consumers?  

We sell a little bit online at the moment, through direct enquiries, but we don’t tend to encourage it as we don’t really have the infrastructure to support it. We’d like to do it more in the future, but not yet.

Do you think it’s dangerous to buy cloth online? So much of the attraction in cloth is tactile, or depends on the light you view it in.

I agree, you really need to sell it through a sample process. Cloth is very technical, and it’s hard to communicate online.

A lot of others have tried to sell cloth online and failed, both because of this level of technical communication and because of the interaction required with each customer, for often a very small return.

Do you think cloth merchants should have more retail shops, to encourage customers to go in and feel cloth for themselves?

Yes, absolutely. We have the shop on Savile Row, which people can go into any time. And most of our agencies and branches around the world encourage the same thing - in New York, in Paris, in Osaka. But it’s perhaps not that widely known about.

Of course you don’t carry stock there - just the bunches. But I know that can be useful in places like New York, given the relative lack of bespoke tailors with cloth books to browse through.

True. We’ve always tried to emphasise a local presence, whether it’s our office or just that of an agent.

And it comes round again to our original talking point - the value of a merchant. Through these locations we have a local connection to the market and understand the culture. It’s very hard to serve a local market effectively without that.

Photo: Luke Carby

The appeal of the cotton suit – bespoke from Elia Caliendo

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I've always found cotton very appealing for summer suits, but historically haven't had much luck with them.

I had a navy one made by Choppin & Lodge, but the make was really too English and structured for the material (my fault, not theirs). And I had a green one from Madrid's Reillo last year, which had an issue with the shoulders (their fault, not mine). 

This summer, I planned for a suit and a jacket in cotton - the suit from Elia Caliendo (pictured here) in a soft Neapolitan style, and the jacket in a double-breasted Milanese style from Ferdinando Caraceni (details next week). 

Elia Caliendo cotton bespoke suit

Cotton is very cool in the summer, particularly if fine and lightweight like this 9oz from Holland & Sherry (276009). 

It will wrinkle, but not as much as linen of the same weight. And it is very comfortable, perhaps more so that most linens.

The sartorial disadvantage, of course, is that cotton won't drape or hold a line well. It is disliked by tailors for this reason - it is not really considered something you can 'tailor' in the same way as linen or wool. 

Cotton's other big disadvantage is that it has no natural stretch. A tight fitting cotton suit can be pretty uncomfortable, and this Caliendo was cut a touch bigger in the waist and thigh to accommodate that.

(Cottons with cashmere mixed in, like my A&S cord suit, alleviate this problem somewhat. But then the cashmere also makes the cotton even more shapeless and liable to bag.)

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So several disadvantages. But there is one more - something a cloth merchant or mill will often list as a disadvantage, but I consider anything but. Cotton is rubbish at holding dye. 

Wool is great. Absorbs it, holds it, won't let it go. But cotton is not. This is why jeans fade, why denim shirts look great around the seams, and why chinos are usually garment washed. 

That resistance to dye is annoying for a mill - it makes the colour harder to control. But for the consumer, it means the particular suit or jacket will age beautifully, developing a patina around the exposed areas and seams.

And given that one of the big themes of Permanent Style is making tailoring relevant to a modern, more casual audience, this ageing is very appealing. 

You can accelerate the process with how the suit is pressed, too. Some Savile Row tailors used to press cotton suits when they were damp, in order to lift out some of the dye out of the folds and seams. 

I wouldn't necessarily recommend doing this on a full suit at home, but you can see the effect if you dampen the crease on a pair of cotton trousers (perhaps with a sponge) and then iron them (always best to start with a tea towel between the iron and the cloth).

The crease will lighten slightly, and do so more the more times you iron them. 

Breakfast Florence

As to this suit, it was beautifully made by Elia Caliendo especially for our Young Tailors Symposium last month. It was only quarter lined, with a piece of bemberg across the top of the back. And the sleeves were left unlined (something I wouldn't recommend on many cloths apart from cotton). 

You can see below how the cotton of the sleeve has been turned back inside, and without the lining in between, the pick stitches show through slightly on the exterior. Like a join-the-dots gauntlet cuff. 

cotton bespoke suit

Elia also convinced me to go for corozo buttons, which I normally avoid. The Italians usually default to them, but generally I think they look too plasticky - without the textural appeal of horn.

But lighter colours of corozo like this tan have more texture - the 'waves' are much more visible. And tan worked nicely with this suit. 

Photos in Florence by Jamie Ferguson, taken during a meet up of the 'Ten most Rakish men'. George Wang of Brio above, and Ethan Newton or Brycelands in the background below.

Tie from Drake's, shirt from Luca Avitabile, handkerchief from Simonnot-Godard.

Cotton brown grey bespoke suit

Coarse vs fine cottons in tailoring

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We covered the appeal of cotton as a tailoring material generally last week, but didn't talk about the different types of cottons. 

There are corduroys and moleskins of course, gabardines and seersucker. But a difference I find particularly interesting - and one which is rarely discussed - is between fine and coarse cottons. 

nicoletta caraceni

The jacket pictured being fitted here, at Ferdinando Caraceni in Milan, is in a much coarser (as well as heavier) cotton than the Caliendo. 

It is a vintage Winterbotham cloth that Nicoletta Caraceni had in the atelier. (Ferdinando Caraceni liked and used to make a lot of cotton jackets and suits).

But what makes it coarse? Several things:

  • First the fibre itself, which just like a wool can be finer or thicker.
  • Second, the yarn it is spun into. A fine fibre can be spun into a finer yarn, but it doesn't have to be. A thicker fibre can only be spun into a thicker yarn.
  • Third, how it is woven. You can weave in difference patterns, settings etc, all of which affect the feel of the cloth. A gabardine, for example, is a tight twill weave, which creates a harder, smoother feel than a normal twill. 
  • Fourth, the finishing. Finishing is a massive area, including things like how a cloth is washed, with how much soap, whether it is milled, whether it's brushed, cut down, etc. Less finishing normally goes into a cotton than a wool though. 

Of these four areas, the most important to our comparison of cottons are the fibre and the finishing. A coarser yarn determines a lot of things further up the process; and finish drives a lot of the feel of the material. 

Ferdinando Caraceni jacket fitting

Thirty years ago, far more cottons were made like this. Then the trend became for finer and finer cloths, in cotton as in wool. 

"Those old English cottons were popular because people wanted a heavier, better wearing cloth," says Michael Day, head of production at Scabal in Brussels. "Back then if you had a 230g cotton, people would have thought it was a shirting rather than a suiting. You'd certainly never make a pair of trousers out of it."

"That market does exist today, and it has been growing a little, but it's still a very small part of the whole," continues Michael. "We don't offer it - it would be a little too niche and take a lot to communicate the value to the customer."

Some mills do still offer such cottons, including Eurotex, Fox Flannel and a handful of Huddersfield mills including Hunt & Winterbotham.

Ferdinando Caraceni milan

Having defined the cloth, then, how does this one differ in feel and performance from the finer cottons more normally used for tailoring? 

Unsurprisingly, it's more similar to a denim or heavier, unwashed chino. Not as stiff as a raw denim by any means, but still untreated and unwashed, and therefore likely to age in a different way, softening more noticeably over time. 

As mentioned, Ferdinando Caraceni used to make a lot of cotton jackets, and Nicoletta still wears a lot of her father's old ones. They have worn in like jeans - softening around the wear points, losing dye and feathering in the elbows and lower back. 

I find it very appealing, and in a different way to the Caliendo cotton discussed previously. It feels more practical, almost like workwear, and I plan to wear it enough to beat it into a similar shape as Nicoletta's. 

Ferdinando Caraceni cotton jacket

Like the Caliendo, this jacket will also have unlined sleeves, and finishing that is particularly nice around the edges and inside of the cuffs. 

You can see the inside of an old model in the photo above. "My father always said that a jacket should be just as beautiful on the outside as the inside," Nicoletta has told me more than once.

And this is particularly true of cotton: "Cotton is a cheap material, so he always said it must be particularly fine in finish, to elevate this everyday material into something higher."

Ferdinando Caraceni bespoke cotton jacket Ferdinando Caraceni cotton jacket shoulder pad

Photography: Luke Carby

A lapis-blue linen jacket for summer

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Blue linen jacket bespoke

Summer clothing, particularly from Italian brands, often includes a lot of light, bright colours. These can be difficult to wear, particularly in northern European countries where the sun might not be that consistent. 

I'd suggest that of those brighter colours, one of the easiest to wear is the bright blue of this linen jacket from Anderson & Sheppard. 

It is a stronger colour than most things a man is likely to own. But it isn't as glaring as lemon-yellow or go-to-hell red trousers. 

It is lighter than most jackets he is likely to own too. But it isn't the cream or sky-blue linen that brands often offer for summer - and again only seems appropriate on madly sunny days. 

I'm going to call it lapis blue. Names of colours are infuriatingly inconsistent, but it is perhaps closest to the stone of lapiz lazuli, rather than cobalt (stronger, deeper) or azure (lighter, brighter). 

Michael Drake used to call his ties in this colour 'sugarbag blue'. But I hesitate to use that given I've never had a sugar bag this colour.

Blue linen jacket with navy grenadine tie

So, lapis blue for the summer. Inevitably I anchor it with some navy - in this case my old friend the 9cm, untipped, hand-rolled navy grenadine tie from Drake's.

And just as inevitably, I pair it with grey trousers below the waist - here the fresco trousers Kathryn Sargent made me years ago when she was still head cutter at Gieves & Hawkes. 

Grey is by far the easiest thing to wear against bright colours, softening and supporting rather than contrasting.

The solid jacket and tie makes room for some pattern in the shirt - and here I'm wearing a blue-and-white striped shirt in a cotton/linen mix, from Luca Avitabile. 

The handkerchief could have been a sharp white linen or even a grey trimmed with white (a nice, unexpected alternative). But given this was a bright day in Italy, I opted for a bright green and blue silk design from Rubinacci. 

On the feet, dark-brown walcots from Edward Green, and Bresciani grey socks to match the trousers. 

anderson and sheppard blue linen jacket

The jacket was made for me several years ago by John Hitchcock when he was at Anderson & Sheppard, and it is probably the single-breasted I like best in terms of style. It is the only two-button I have from him, and I prefer it to the three-roll-twos. 

Getting it out of the wardrobe reminded me there were a few things I wanted to get altered, but haven't gotten around to. I was going to narrow the sleeve, for example (the only thing I don't like that much about the A&S drape style).

And the sleeves were mistakenly shortened from the end - rather than the shoulder - a couple of years ago, which I need to get fixed too. 

I have to say in retrospect I wouldn't have had a patch breast pocket either. The dinky little Neapolitan ones are nice, but the English ones just too big and bulky. I don't mind it on the jacket now - it seems part of its character - but not something I would do again.

The linen is still available by the way, from W Bill. It is in the Linens & Cottons bunch, number WB60265.

Photography: James Munro for Drake's

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The corduroy suit

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I have a friend who wears what he calls ‘knockabout’ suits.

How exactly he knocks about in them I don’t know, but the meaning is clear: these are casual suits, that don’t belong in a formal environment like an office.

Most non-worsted suitings can exist in this category: woollens like flannel, linens, and of course all the different types of cotton.

One of my favourites, and one that is particularly hard to get right, is corduroy.

Pictured is my tan-corduroy suit from Anderson & Sheppard, worn at our book signing in Leather Foot, Toronto earlier in the year.

simon crompton book signing LeatherFoot

Corduroy, like most cottons, immediately feels more casual than flannel or linen. It cannot hold a crease; it is soft and malleable; and it reminds us of the comfort in a cotton T-shirt, chinos or jeans.

Actually, comfort is an interesting point here - for it can mean different things to different people.

Jeans are comfortable because they warm and mould with the body, giving a feeling of reassurance and structure. This is very different to the comfort of a tracksuit or loose linen trousers, where the aim is to feel like you’re wearing nothing at all.

Arguments over whether jeans are comfortable, unfortunately, never get round to defining their terms - remaining at the level of anger and anecdote.

Corduroy bespoke suit Anderson Sheppard

But back to corduroy. The thing that makes cotton reassuring is also its most limiting factor in tailoring - it does not stretch.

In trousers this is often mitigated with the addition of elastane (which rarely works out well) but in tailoring, a little wool or cashmere is often added - both to add that touch of natural stretch and to give it softness.

My suit here is made in a Zegna cashmere/cotton corduroy (10% cashmere) and others such as Scabal offer something similar. This feels great, although it does make the trousers bag even more than regular cords.

I enquired with Scabal whether it was possible to use pure cotton for the trousers and a cotton/cash mix for the jacket, as this would seem to be the best of both worlds.

But apparently the differences in the way cotton and wool take dye would mean that the two cloths could never be close enough in colour to be indistinguishable.

corduroy-suit

From a style point of view cord works well as a ‘knockabout’ suit because it immediately looks relaxed and casual - helped by its mostly casual colours.

A reader made the insightful comment a while ago that this suit was perhaps an example of the more casual direction of menswear. I agree, and can only hope that men realise the style and beauty of such tailoring, rather than descending all the way to tracksuits and trainers.

The challenge with styling corduroy is to avoid its rather old-fashioned connotations. As another reader asked recently, ‘can you suggest a way to wear cords without appearing too ‘fogey’?’.

In a suit, even a regular single-breasted one, this is relatively easy.

It’s harder in separate trousers or a jacket, but I would suggest a cut that is as slim as tolerable, and then working with other items around the cords.

So avoid a tattersall shirt, chunky shoes and a pheasant-decorated silk tie, in favour of perhaps (as here) a denim shirt, slim shoes and grey cashmere neckwear.

LeatherFoot canada

Lastly, the make and style of this Anderson & Sheppard tailoring.

As regular readers will know, I love the style of the A&S double-breasted - the chest it gives me with the drape cut, plus the belly on the lapel.

But, much as I love this suit, the make is probably too formal for the versatile piece I wanted.

The height and structure of the collar means that it really only works with a tie; when the shirt is open-necked, it will too easily collapse beneath the jacket collar.

(And this is with the button-down shirt style that Luca Avitabile and I specifically designed to stay up when unbuttoned.)

All English jackets are like this, and for the use that I wanted I should really have used an Italian tailor, most likely Neapolitan.

But we live and learn. I may yet get to make something similar in a Neapolitan cut, and in the meantime it is interesting how much I have come to love this suit, despite its flaw.


Introducing: The Guide to Cloth

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This week we are launching another big project for Permanent Style: The Guide to Cloth.

This has been a long time in the works, but we wanted to do it right.

There is a lot of piecemeal information out there about cloths, yarns and weaves, but (for me) nothing considered and comprehensive.

The aim is to gradually build an in-depth, practical guide with information at every level of detail. We will start with basics – how to examine cloth, what defines a jacketing – and steadily drill down further and further, until (perhaps) we’re differentiating between different breeds of merino.

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We also aim to be responsive, so while the first few pieces are planned (and will be published regularly every fortnight), we are open to all ideas and thoughts on what would usefully add to this central resource.

As ever, it is your input, comments and questions that make Permanent Style what it is.

I believe the guide will be useful to both customers of bespoke, who regularly have to imagine what a small square of wool will look like draped around their body, and those buying ready-to-wear, who have to make equally crucial decisions about the style, weave or weight of cloth when buying a suit.

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The Guide is being sponsored by Scabal. This has been extremely useful in terms of access to people and expertise, but has also enabled us to fund the development of a micro-site to host the Guide.

The micro-site will live within www.PermanentStyle.com, but will be a dedicated area where the whole Guide can be browsed independently. It will be launched once we have the first few articles under our belt.

It’s important to note, however, that the content of the Guide will be entirely independent and objective. Each article is based on input from several experts, at tailors, mills, merchants and even academics.

Scabal’s involvement is similar to the display advertising we carry elsewhere on the site. On the right-hand side of each article, they will suggest and recommend cloths from their range that are related to the content. I believe this will be genuinely useful, but more importantly, it retains the clear distinction between editorial and advertising that we always seek on Permanent Style.

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The first article will be published on Wednesday, and the next in two weeks’ time. I do hope you find them useful – I can’t wait to start rolling out the whole breadth and depth of the coverage over the coming months.

Thanks as ever

Simon

The basics of selecting cloth

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Selecting cloth may be the hardest part of the bespoke (or made-to-measure) process. You pick the style of a suit every time you buy one off the rack, but you’re unlikely to have ever looked at a tiny square of cloth and tried to imagine what it would look like on you, head-to-toe.

What is it for?

A lot of the work should be done before you even visit a tailor. The right cloth is largely driven by questions of when and where you will wear the finished piece, so make sure you have considered questions in advance such as:

  • How formal does it have to be?
    • Will the suit or jacket be worn just for the office? For a special event? Or for a mix? What is appropriate in those settings in terms of material, colour and pattern?
  • How heavy should it be?
    • Will you wear it all year round, or just for particular times of the year? When you do, will you ever really be outside for long, or just in air conditioning?
  • What else will it be worn with?
    • Consider whether you are likely to wear the finished piece with a shirt and tie, or sweater and jeans. Or even both.

Once you have these ideas straight in your head, the challenge is communicating your desires to the tailor or salesperson, so they can guide you through the cloth options.

One easy way to aid communication is to wear something similar or bring in a picture of what you want. This may seem silly, but visual demonstration is a lot easier than verbal.

The tailor may instantly realise that you want a tweed with a harder, smooth finish, like a Saxony; rather than a heavy, woolly Harris tweed. But chances are you would have struggled to put that into words.

How cloth is made

Speaking of language, it’s worth being aware that there are four main stages in the making of cloth that affect how it looks and wears. The tailor may use points of each to explain the options.

We will go into more detail on all four in separate chapters of this guide, but for the moment they can be summarised as:

  • Design. The obvious aspect – the colour and the pattern. There are shades and casts of everything, so it’s worth comparing colours and seeking advice on them
  • Material. Whether the fibre is wool, linen, cotton or cashmere, but also how fine it is (the ‘Super’ numbers)
  • Weaving. How that raw material is woven into cloth. This will be most obvious in the pattern (twill, herringbone etc) but also affects performance
  • Finishing. Probably the most underrated area, this can turn woven cloth into something very smooth and silky, or rough and rustic

What are its properties?

Often, these four stages are the ones a tailor or salesperson will focus on. But arguably the important thing is the effects these have on the cloth.

And when you’re comparing a whole range of different navy jacketings, for example, it is these effects you need to consider.

Some of the most obvious are:

  • Hardness. The suit you wear to work (a worsted wool) has a harder finish than the soft, woollen cashmere you might wear as a jacket. This hard finish makes the cloth sleeker and smoother.
  • Crispness or dryness. Cloth that is crisper is sharp, creating a longer-lasting crease in a trouser. The surface also tends to feel drier. Linen often feels drier than a worsted wool used for suiting.
  • Nap. The hairiness – the length of the visible fibres on the cloth. In practice closely related to the hardness/softness.
  • Weight. An easy one to focus on. Most cloths will state their weight in grams and/or ounces. Remember that heavier cloths will tend to drape and wear better.
  • Breathability. A cloth with a more open weave will tend to allow more air through, so it wears cooler.
  • Wrinkle-resistance. A high-twist cloth tends to feel stiffer and won’t wrinkle as easily. Often recommended for travel.

If you go into a tailor with merely the idea that you want a sharp suit, you will likely first be asked some of the questions at top – as to when and where you will use it. So consider them in advance.

Then you may be presented with different options, with the explanation that one is softer, lighter or more breathable than another. It’s worth understanding the ‘effects’ listed above to anticipate these.

What do I do with it?

Once you have those options in front of you, what do you do? Is it like tasting a wine in a restaurant – are you expected just to nod and smile?

Try to do more than that. Here are some recommendations, gathered from my own experience and the tips of Savile Row’s top salesmen and tailors.

  1. Narrow down your choices fairly quickly, if you can. Try to get to a point where you have 4-5 options laid out alongside each other. Perhaps different shades, or slightly different patterns.
  1. Feel each suggested cloth between your fingers. Get a sense of how smooth, soft or crisp it is. Although you don’t wear cloth against your skin, you do feel it with your hands, and feel how it moves with your body.
  1. Make sure you consider which side of the cloth is intended to go on the outside. They are not always the same. Usually the reverse side will have the label on it showing the code and weight.
  1. Consider the different colours carefully. Take them to a window or outside to get a sense of them in natural light.
  1. Compare them to each other. Often you don’t realise the colour of a navy until you compare it to black. Perhaps also put them against different colours of shirt – white or blue – to see how they change.
  1. If there is a pattern, try to visualise it repeating outwards. This is often one of the hardest things to do, particularly with large designs. In general, subtle patterns like herringbones and Prince-of-Wales checks will become more subtle when worn head to toe. They just become texture. But big, bold patterns and colours can become stronger.
  1. Some tailors will have bolts of fabric available that you can get down and drape across yourself. This is worth doing. Even if you don’t want that particular one, it can be useful to get an idea of how a shade, or a pattern, will look full-length.
  1. Don’t feel you have to make a decision right away. Often the tailor can give you a small section of the cloth, to compare to things at home, or request one from the cloth merchant. This should always be big enough to see the full repeat of a pattern. There are often enough things to consider on a first trip to the tailor, without having to be final on cloth as well.

The cut of your suit is the most important thing to how it looks and feels. But I find I wear suits far more when I love the cloth; it’s more important than we’d like to admit. Spend time over it.

 

As with everywhere else on Permanent Style, we would encourage comments on these posts. It creates, over time, a body of knowledge and experience that I know readers return to time and again.

Let us know your experiences and your advice.

Sartoria Pirozzi at E Marinella, and the ‘three-way’ suit

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The amount of good soft-tailoring in London seems to increase by the month. And not just because people decide to start travelling: sometimes I just miss them.

Nunzio Pirozzi has been travelling to the E Marinella store on Maddox Street for several years, but it was only recently that I got round to meeting him.

Nunzio's good value too - not something you always expect when a tailor has trunk shows in a retail store (given the store is normally taking a cut). Suits start at £2300, which is what I paid for my corduroy suit being fitted here.

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I mentioned a few weeks ago, while discussing the style points of my Anderson & Sheppard corduroy suit, that I liked the cloth so much I'd love one in a single- as well as a double-breasted.

So when Nunzio started a conversation about cotton and suitings, this biscuit-coloured corduroy leapt to mind (it's a cotton/cashmere mix, from Scabal).

I mentioned on the corduroy style post that ideally the suit would have been in a soft, Neapolitan cut, to enable it to be worn more easily with open-necked shirts. This will do that perfectly.

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In fact, it's a great demonstration of what could be called the 'three-way suit' - where jacket, trousers and suit can all be worn separately (with the suit combination often being a little showy/dandy).

Readers often seem to be aiming for a three-way suit with their commissions, with the aim of versatility and therefore economy. But it's rarely possible.

A jacketing is usually defined by the openness of the weave or softness of the material, both of which are anathema to a good, straight hanging trouser. Navy hopsack can work, but the trousers aren't always that useful.

The easiest materials for a three-way suit are therefore casual ones like linen, corduroy or other cottons. Less formal colours also have potential, like a pale grey or the royal blue of my A&S flannel suit.

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The fitting here with Nunzio was my first, and there were a couple of striking things about it. (Other than the sleeves being oddly short.)

First, the cutaway below the waist button (shown above), was noticeably sharp, even though it had the nice, smooth roundness of a typical Neapolitan jacket.

And the shoulder was a touch more extended than most Neapolitan jackets, which I don't dislike. It will be interesting to see what it looks like at the forward fitting - where you can tell far more about the style. (An old rule of thumb has it that the first fitting is for the tailor, the second fitting for you.)

Nunzio was absolutely lovely to work with, and indeed I know is widely liked in Naples. He also probably has the best moustache in menswear.

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Nunzio founded his tailoring house himself in 1964 and it is not small, with 15 people in-house and various outworkers. His son Domenico cuts alongside Nunzio, and other family members count among the staff, from Domenico's daughter and nephew to Nunzio's brother Felice Pirozzi.

He comes to the Marinella store in London every 6-8 weeks, making him a good, regular option for those looking to try out the Neapolitan style so suited to modern lifestyles.

He tries to always do first customers in two fittings, and repeat customers in one, but it's not always possible.

(If in doubt, my advice is to always permit the extra fitting. Better that than having to send the suit back, or wait another 8 weeks just to get the alterations confirmed.)

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Contact for London through the Marinella store at Marinella@MarinellaNapoli.co.uk

Photography: Jamie Ferguson @jkf_man

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The guide to jacketings

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What makes a cloth suitable for a jacket, but not for a suit?

This is a question I know many readers struggle with, particularly as offices become more casual. Without the safety of a dark suit and dark shoes, what should a man wear? Why doesn’t the jacket from that suit just work with other trousers?

It’s about the set

The key is the density of the cloth. A fine worsted wool used for suiting is quite dense, with more yarn per centimetre. This is controlled by the ‘set’ of the loom when the cloth is woven.

A denser cloth is better ‘constructed’, as those in the cloth industry put it. It has more body, and thus can hang and drape better, as well as retaining a crease in a pair of trousers.

Jacketings (cloths used for jackets) tend to be looser in the weave and therefore more malleable. If you pick up a nice navy cashmere jacketing, it will feel spongy and pliable.

A navy suiting, by contrast, will feel like it has a definite shape and direction. It knows where it wants to go, and once you’ve stopped messing around with it, it will return there.     

Below: A close up of my particularly loosely woven Permanent Style tweed jacket
 

a tweed and waistcoat with chambray shirt

  
Not the softness

A jacketing is often thought of as soft, but it doesn’t have to be. A navy cashmere and a hairy Shetland are very different in feel, but they both have this loose, pliable feel in common.

Summer jackets are similar. They are often some loosely constructed mixture of linen, silk, and wool. (Indeed, the very fact that they are mixes makes them a little irregular in appearance, and therefore more casual.)

But even if summer jacket is in plain linen, it will usually be a lighter weight if intended for a jacketing and heavier if for a whole suit – with that weight partly down to how densely it has been woven.

The fiber matters too

Now, this doesn’t mean the weaver can make anything into a suiting, as long as the set is right. For something to work as a suiting, it also has to be a relatively long fiber, so it can be spun into a fine yarn.

The vast majority of cashmere fibers are just too short, as are Shetland and Harris wools. It is possible to make suitings out of cashmere, but the fibers have to be particularly long and carefully selected.

You can have densely woven tweeds that are made into shooting suits, for example. But they have to be much heavier and will never have the fineness of a worsted suiting. A tweed like Saxony, meanwhile, uses a finer yarn than Shetland and is still heavier than most suitings.

Below: My cashmere oatmeal-coloured jacket from Elia Caliendo 
  

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The role of finishing

You could be forgiven for thinking that finishing was a more important factor than density. After all, it is finishing that makes something smooth or rough, sleek or fluffy.

Most jackets do tend to have less of a finish than suits. They are not so ‘clean cut’, with the fibers being left a little longer. But you can also get jackets with a clean, shiny finish. It’s not my taste, but these can be seen as more formal jackets, and they are set apart from suits both by the ‘set’ and by their colour or pattern.

Hopsack and blazers

One obvious exception to this is some forms of navy blazer. They are often made from a more densely woven cloth, more similar to a suiting.

This is a question of formality, and is largely a hangover from days when a separate jacket and trousers was still very formal – before the lounge suit began to dominate all smart and professional menswear.

Today, a navy blazer is usually a little less dense. Hopsack, for example, is a style of weave that is often used for a slightly less densely constructed jacket, and makes a more versatile, modern blazer. It also tends to have a less shiny finish.

Below: My hopsack jacket from Elia Caliendo
  

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Colour and pattern

Finally, the colour and pattern of a jacketing usually sets it apart from a suit – although this is far more a question of culture and taste.

Strong colours and bold patterns tend to be used in jackets just because having them in a whole suit would be overwhelming. It wouldn’t be smart enough, and therefore undermine most of what people want out of a suit.

If you’re wearing a separate jacket and trousers, it works best where the two are clearly distinguished from each other.

This can be done in lots of ways (texture, density, material, colour, pattern) but colour and pattern are the easiest. And patterned jackets generally work better than patterned trousers.

Below: My muted-green jacket from Solito, with dark purple overcheck
  

Escorial jacket Solito bespoke with Pardesso trousers

  
Which colours to pick

As to what styles of jacket and trouser you should combine together, this is perhaps harder and certainly more subjective than what cloth should be used as a jacketing.

But some general guidelines are possible. Here are my five quick tips, with some links to further reading:

1 Navy is the most versatile colour for a jacket, followed by grey and pale browns (sand/oatmeal). It very rarely works as an odd trouser.

http://www.permanentstyle.co.uk/2016/04/your-next-sports-jacket-oatmeal-cashmere-from-elia-caliendo.html

2 Green and brown are great jacket colours, but tend to be more rustic and casual. Get them in muted colours if possible.

http://www.permanentstyle.co.uk/2016/04/escorial-jacket-the-modernity-of-muted-colours.html

3 Jeans only work with the most casual of jackets. Think texture, casual colour and a loose set!

http://www.permanentstyle.co.uk/2015/10/wearing-a-jacket-and-jeans.html

4 Greys are the most versatile colour of odd trouser. Mid-grey, light and charcoal probably, in that order

http://www.permanentstyle.co.uk/2014/03/trouser-colours-to-wear-with-odd-jackets.html

5 Contrast is key. And white or cream are very useful in a trouser if you can get away with them.

http://www.permanentstyle.co.uk/2009/10/reader-question-wearing-odd-jackets.html

 

The guide to worsted suitings

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Choosing a suit cloth is, in some ways, harder than any other area of clothing. Because they all look so similar. 

If we leave aside the more aesthetic – and subjective areas – of colour and pattern, we are left with dozens of similar-looking suitings differentiated only by technical points of composition and construction.

Some of these points, however, are pretty important; others less so. In this post we will attempt to explain the difference, and therefore highlight which ones you should care about.

Below: Finished worsted suit from Camps de Luca, Paris
  

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Worsted
 

Let’s kick off with some definitions. Most suits are made from worsted wool. (We’ll cover flannels and woollen suitings in a separate post.) ‘Worsted’ refers to the yarn the cloth is woven from – longer fibres are used, and spun into a finer yarn.

This finer, sleeker, and more uniform yarn usually produces finer, sleeker cloth – which is why suits look so much sleeker than other woollen products.

But it can also be woven into fairly thick, heavy cloth, and finished to look woollier and fuzzier. It depends on what look and feel the weaver is going for.

One of the central aspects of suiting is the fineness of this wool fibre. It is measured in microns, and is often referred to by a ‘super’ numbers, eg Super 120s or Super 150s.

This is an important area, but also a potentially misleading one. We will deal with it in more detail in a separate post (on ‘superfines’).

Below: A fitting at Chittleborough & Morgan in a particularly thick and heavy worsted suit
  

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Weight

A second key attribute of worsted cloth is its weight. This will be clearly marked and is measured in either ounces or grams.

Generally, a heavier cloth hangs better and lasts longer, but lightweight cloths are often seen as more luxurious and cooler in warmer climates.

Whether they are more luxurious is of course subjective, and changes over time. Coolness is more objective, and it’s fair to say that men can generally wear heavier cloths than they think.

Weight is driven by two things: the thickness of the yarn and the ‘construction’ of the cloth it is woven into.

Construction itself is a broad term and includes:

  • how closely the yarn is set together on the loom;
  • the pattern of the weaving;
  • and how many warp and weft yarns are woven around each other.
      

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Above: the twill of my Whitcomb & Shaftesbury navy suit

So for example, a twill will always be heavier than a plain weave in the same yarn, just because a twill is denser and therefore heavier.

The construction can also be important in how well the cloth hangs and retains its shape. A denser weave, like a twill, usually performs better in this respect, and is therefore a good option for suits or trousers. Sports-jacket materials tend to be softer and looser.

Most weaves are more about the pattern of the cloth than its weight and feel. But those can make a functional difference include gabardine (a twill denser in the warp), barathea (a dense, complicated weave) and satin (which creates the shiny look we associate with the term).

There will be another, later post in this series illustrating these weaves – largely in order to understand the aesthetic differences between them.

Below: A herringbone weave on my Caraceni jacket (a woollen though, rather than a worsted)
  

Caraceni bespoke cashmere jacket buttons

  
Two by what?
 

Another construction area that can cause confusion is phrases such as ‘2-and-2’ or ‘2-by-2’.

Generally a 2-and-2 weave means that the cloth is woven evenly, face and back, with two threads moving up and down on both sides.

The alternative is a 2-and-1 twill, with two threads on the face for every one on the back.

But there is also a ‘2-by-1′, which has a two-ply yarn in the warp (running along the cloth) and a single-ply yarn in the weft (running across it).

The weave is even in this case, but the variation is in the yarn itself. This construction is lightweight, but can also be rather fragile.

The vast majority of cloths are 2-and-2, although you do get heavier and more traditional cloths in a 3-and-3. Either way, this is towards the more technical and end of cloth attributes.
  

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Below: A merino-wool waistcoat from my Cifonelli navy suit

Composition

More important is any variation in the fibre that goes into the yarn.

Some worsteds, for example, include a small amount of cashmere in them, in order to feel softer (often trying to replicate the feel of superfines).

There may be, say, 10% cashmere fibre spun in with 90% wool. At these proportions, the cloth is a little softer but still hangs and performs well. If the amount of cashmere were to be increased, however, it would start to make the cloth spongier and baggy – which is why 100% cashmere is rarely used for suits or trousers.

Most other worsted yarns are made with merino wool, though even here there are variations. Escorial, for example, is a merino that comes from a single flock in Tasmania and is particularly fine and springy.

(Other suiting fibres such as mohair, also often mixed with wool, will be dealt with in a separate post.)
  

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Above: A brown worsted flannel trouser from PA Crowe

Finishing

Somewhere down the bottom of the list in terms of importance, is finishing.

The finishing of cloth – brushing, milling and so on – can vary a lot with woollens and other cloths. But it is fairly consistent with worsteds: they all tend to have a very clean, close finish to give them their sleek, smart appearance.

The exception is worsted flannels, which are milled to try and replicate the feeling of flannel, just in a lighter weight. And there are ‘crushed’ or semi-milled worsteds, though these are relatively rare.
  

Sartoria Dalcuore Naples bespoke suit

  
Above: Fitting for high-twist brown suit with Dalcuore
 

Overall, colour and pattern are always going to be the most important things in the selection of a suiting.

But it’s worth understanding fineness and its effects, composition of different fibres, and the various things that go into determining weight.

Top image: Jamie Ferguson. All other images, Luke Carby

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